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 Post subject: Empire Magazine - December.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:23 am 
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Just bought Empire Magazine. This month its the '10 Icons of the Decade.' They have 10 different covers, one for each icon in the top 10 voted for by readers. One of them is Jack Sparrow. It took a while but I managed to find 'Jack's copy'.

Inside are a few comments from Terry Rossio about Jack. I won't type them all, but here are a few:-

'HE'S NOT THE LEAD CHARACTER - No iconic character has ever been embraced without a straight man. In Pirates, you had to have Orlando Bloom and Keira Knightley. If they don't play it straight, Johnny Depp can't do what he did. It would make as little sense to do a Jack Sparrow sequel as it would to make a second Lord of the Rings film about Gandalf.'

'HIS SWAGGER - This comes from the belief that he's in tune with some aspect of the world that nobody else is, and that's what makes him frustrating. Barbossa is fascinated by Jack because he has some kind of power that you can't defeat. It's like trying to slash a sword through smoke.'

'JOHNNY - When Johnny Depp came to the role, his interpretation was a wholly amazing creation, because you just couldn't anticipate the addition of the drunkenness or the insanity or the almost ambiguous sexuality. His embracing of the wordplay took it to a whole different level: it's less subtle, but so theatrical and flamboyant.'


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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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*loves Jack* :wub:


Thanks, beth!

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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I really wanted the Jack cover but I couldn't find it :( ended up with Harry Potter instead haha

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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It would make as little sense to do a Jack Sparrow sequel as it would to make a second Lord of the Rings film about Gandalf.

Gosh, or an X-Men movie based on say, oh - I don't know.... Wolverine for example. :hehe: The writer of this article must be an Elizabeth-Will fan. :rollseyes:

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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Wolverine is completely different because he has a whole different sideline away from the X-Men, his own series of comics he wasn't written to make the boring characters interesting. He wasn't originally an X-Man. He was originally written as an enemy for the Hulk. Then he was given his whole other life working for Department H, Weapon X, the New Avengers...etc on the side of the X-Men. The X-Men Origins: Magneto film is more appropriate to the "Gandalf" comment, I don't see how that's going to work at all really, I see his film being more like a film just about Jack Sparrow, he's an amazing character but he only works well bouncing off other characters ... but I've gone completely offtopic now.
Jack was written as a sub-character to make the Will/Elizabeth storyline work, it was just luck (and Johnny :Laughing:) that made him so popular, put him in a film on his own and what? He's just sail around getting drunk :Laughing: Jack needs other characters to play off, that's why he works so well with Barbossa.

*steps off soapbox*

ETA: Pictures of the covers here;

http://www.empireonline.com/magazine/

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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Well all of that is probably true but only a hardcore comic book fan would have all of that background on the character. I do not follow comics like you obviously do and to me - the analogy fit quite nicely. First I ever heard of Wolverine was in connection with the X-Men movies hence, my comment. I did not mean to offend you or anyone else with the comparison I chose. wink2

Obviously every character in a movie needs other characters to interact with and to assume that a movie that holds Jack as the principle player would be nothing more than him sailing around getting rum soaked is a pretty narrow look at the movies' potential. Of course there will be other characters that will be involved in the movie and I'm sure they will interact with each other just like in the first 3. I don't expect the movie to be all Jack, all the time. That would be foolish. :Laughing:

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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deppdicated wrote:
. I did not mean to offend you or anyone else with the comparison I chose. wink2


You didn't offend at all wink2 I'm just over eager to ramble and ramble away even when it's completely offtopic :Laughing:

It's a shame all those covers are out for the same month, I would love to have the Jack Sparrow one, the Wolverine one, the Jason Bourne and the Joker one, but I'm not buying the same magazine 4 times over and Jack will always win :Laughing:

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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Hope I can find the Jack one.

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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I hate when they do this and they only do it in hopes that people will pick up more than one copy. Grrrrr!

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 Post subject: Re: Empire Magazine - December.
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I don't get it. So there's 10 different copies of the same magazine, but with 10 different covers? Are all 10 of them spread out all over the place, in different stores, etc.? So if you don't find the Jack cover at one store, you go to the next store in hopes of finding it?

beth wrote:
'JOHNNY - When Johnny Depp came to the role, his interpretation was a wholly amazing creation, because you just couldn't anticipate the addition of the drunkenness or the insanity or the almost ambiguous sexuality. His embracing of the wordplay took it to a whole different level: it's less subtle, but so theatrical and flamboyant.'


Perfectly put, except the 'insanity' part, unless he means it in a good way, lol, and not literally.

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